Oh my gosh - JW's are HELL-A HAPPENING! I just travelled into the future and took this footage from a 2020 convention. The evangelical slant has totally taken off!
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What Is Exciting About Jehovah’s Witnesses? Anything??
by minimus inare they the most boring people on earth?
their music, their videos, their public speaking... all are a big yawn.
there is no life to the witness religion!.
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August 2018 Study Watchtower - Some wise words for JW's to consider!
by The Fall Guy indo you have the facts?.
page 3 - as true christians, we need to develop the ability to evaluate information and reach accurate conclusions.. page 4 - it is especially important to avoid (view) websites promoted by apostates.
(awakened jw's) their whole purpose is to tear down (inform) god’s people and to distort (reveal) the truth.
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@stuckinarut2 I know, Stuck. I know. I read that paragraph like:
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"Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity
by stuckinarut2 inso as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.
a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).
the wife's father died.
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@resolute Bandicoot They would never agree to it. They can't even be seen in association with @stuckinarut2 on social media. There's no way they'd contaminate their status by onlookers in Stuck's small town by being in a two meter radius of him.
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Punctuation Is Important
by compound complex in“anne boleyn walked around and talked to her ladies in waiting half an hour after her head was cut off.”.
“anne boleyn walked around and talked to her ladies in waiting; half an hour after, her head was cut off.”.
please feel free to add your own examples and comments.. thanks..
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Someone tell J.Lo her latest pair of mittons is ready.
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THEY act like the ones who are hurt??!!
by stuckinarut2 init really amazes me when jws act like we are hurting them!.
many of us have found that if we stop associating with them for valid reasons, they act all upset and hurt that we would be "so cruel as to limit our association or cut them off".
i know of friends here on the forum who have been told by parents that they "will shun them if they leave jehovah" , and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and our awake friends shun them first, the parents cry and bemoan the situation and say how "cruel it is to deprive them of their company".
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@stuckinarut2 I'm back! WHERE to begin?!
I began my fade in July last year after an apostasy trial went awry. I literally got up and ran away from my meeting DURING it. Since then, I saw my parents weekly (sometimes bi-weekly!). I did my best to give WHAM! Jr. a shot at having grandparents.
My relationship with my parents was strained (more so from my mother). My father knows DAMN well why I can no longer attend meetings. I've always been very forthcoming with my heartbreak over being lied to. I've often pleaded, cried and tried to reason with him to just try and understand my position in the light of my mother calling me "cruel" for withholding my son from meetings.
My father has always met my desperate cries with stoic silence and, at best, sarcasm and exaggeration to make me appear crazy. "Well, NOW that your eyes have been opened that this organization is sooo corrupt, devilish, Satanic, and what have you, you should be HAPPY! You are free from it! Go in peace. Why cry? And you would want to stop touching it/having anything to do with it with all this research!"
My tears were usually fueled by my mother's deranged beratement of me being "mentally sick", having "broken [her] heart" and making her "SICK" to her stomach for not wanting to be in the organization anymore. The tears were often propelled by sheer frustration when she would gloat about how wonderful the organization was doing to rub salt in my wounds, and if I dared to reply (seriously and gently) with some facts, she'd yell, "I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT! I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE! You CAN'T help someone who is SICK in the mind!" Then she'd call for my father to usher me out of the house for disrupting the peace.
Push started coming to shove when I was having a few words with my father in January. He warned me that if I continued to "speak about the organization, you will face dire consequences. You'd better keep your mouth shut."
I shrugged and said, "consequences? I'm not concerned about elders anymore. I'm holding fast to what is TRUE. They don't scare me."
"You will be disfellowshipped if word gets out that you have not been keeping quiet about these things," he replied solemnly.
"So?" I replied, nonplussed. "I'm still me. I haven't changed between now and when they disfellowship me, should that ever happen. It's just a title, as far as I'm concerned." And I meant it!
"You wouldn't be this nonchalant when you experience the ramifications of being disfellowshipped."
"Like what?" I countered.
My father looked me dead in the eye and uttered words any daughter would never forget: "You'll regret it when you or WHAM Jr. are ever in crisis or suffering from calamity, and your mother and I will NOT be there for you."
The tears. They just flowed. This man... who I have emailed in depth about the Biblical reasoning on shunning (note: it DOESN'T EXIST in the WT sense)... this man, whom I have looked up to all my life as my hero. My voice of reason. My rock. This man whom I was about to say goodbye to forever...
Something inside of me died that afternoon as I drove away, bleary eyed and completely shattered. It's been five months since he said that. And I won't look back. Since then, my mother has inundated my phone with attempts at calling. Messages. Emails dictated by her and sent through my father.
These messages and emails begging for me to do what's right in "Jehovah's eyes" and stop depriving them of contact from my son and I... They mean nothing to me anymore. I can't let them mean anything other than a selfish plea for a "dose of communication" to satisfy them, based on the technicality of me not being disfellowshipped. They really regard their relationship with my son and I as THAT disposable over a title? As something hinging on what a man in a suit says from a platform?
I'm done. I haven't addressed it with them directly (because, out of self preservation, I can't handle seeing these non-parents again in the cold-hearted flesh). But should that day ever arrive, I'll just let them know that I simply dropped the hammer for them. Why wait for an announcement?
I'm an apostate now as an "inactive" Witness. And I'll continue to be one whether I ever do get disfellowshipped or not. Let's not beat around the bush, mum and dad. I'm tired of sparing your feelings when you clearly have no regard for my own. Your callous, heart-wrenching disposition before I disappeared will haunt you to your grave OR your awakening. I'm ready for either.
Hurts, doesn't it?
Come get me, Watchtower. I've got nothing left to lose, you blood-sucking, family-killing corporation. I'm out of here.
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"Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity
by stuckinarut2 inso as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.
a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).
the wife's father died.
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They say tragedy unites people.
But cult members... they're not "people". They're conduits of the Governing Body, devoid of any humanity, natural affection or human instincts. Completely hollow and ready for filling with the latest serving of WT propaganda.
You knew this couple and they were essentially you and @Unstuck's closest couple friends. The amount of things you did - not just with them, but FOR them - surpasses any casual friendship.
Did they ever care to ask you WHY you're not at the meetings? Did they ever care when @Untuck's father was on life support a few months ago? Did they ever care for the HUMAN BEINGS you guys are?
So... "thanks for the thought," @stuckinarut2. You should have mentioned that you followed up with a sincere text enquiring how the wife is going, which was greeted with...
NO REPLY.
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Caleb and Sophia cartoons?
by stuckinarut2 inwe recently haven't heard much here about the caleb and sophia cartoon series.. is it still running?
or have the gb realised how pathetic they are?.
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@Stuckinarut2 It was called Matt and Mandy because "Rod and Todd" was already taken.
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"You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
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@mentalcarity That's what this thread could just be about: getting all the teeth-gritting madness out on paper without Sister Blind Faith having access to my frustrations. Thank you - and @Xanthippe - for thinking of baby WHAM! He's a tough tot. X
@Hecce You know what, she may be fifty. My guess is, she was only an adolescent when Penton woke up and half her cong left after him. Her mother was a faithful JW to her death last year, so Sister Blind Faith would have been under her roof and following suit, unlike her older siblings who were in a position to vote with their feet.
You say "she is trouble" - all loyal JWs are, unfortunately.
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"You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho inhey forum goers.
i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.
bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.
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So much gold in one thread - thank you, every one of you!
@punkofnice This whole experience of bouncing ideas around with you guys has been beyond cathartic during this time. I feel satisfied enough just reading through your rational replies and coming up with my own hypothetical responses. The dame who emailed me may no longer be getting an actual reply from me.
I love what @StephaneLaliberte did. It really holds a mirror up to Sister Blind Faith's cult speak and forces her to read her own fallacious demands without the WT weasel words watering them down. I kind of wouldn't mind just responding to her email saying:
"Hey! I'm so glad I've got this down in writing now. I've printed your email out to take along to all my Return Visits and interested friends I've been preaching to. Could you believe that this whole time I've been telling them that as Jehovah's Witnesses, we 'welcome ALL questions and are always happy to answer queries about our beliefs. One thing you'll love about Jehovah's Witnesses is that we ALWAYS accept questions, unlike other religions where knowledge is usually restricted to the Priests/Pope or higher-ups'? ...I guess I was giving them misleading information - kind of like a bait-and-switch sales pitch, eh? I feel so bad, but at least now I can honestly set them straight. With your email, I'm able to show them that asking questions about our religion is the gateway to sinning against the Holy Spirit, for which destruction at Armageddon awaits. Our Governing Body is not inspired but somehow, they manage to possess greater knowledge about God and the Bible than any of us mere mortals! It's important you don't question their doctrine because God could kill you at Armageddon.' That ought to shut those interested people up and help them see it's the Truth! :) Thanks for the advice!"
@sparrowdown wrote this in a more recent thead, so I have to include it because it was just so well put: 'I find indifference to their beliefs and their culty social games really gets to them. They really have no idea what to do with indifference. As I said they need a reaction any reaction so they can interpret it and label you as either "guilty" or "bitter" or "pathetic loser" or "weak and ashamed" etc etc. If they are met with smiling indifference to their religious beliefs combined with calm assertiveness ie giving them nothing they can "read" it's like they become genuinely intrigued with why you are immune to their guilt-inducing superpowers. Maybe even intrigued long enough for a little seed of curiosity to sprout in their mind.'
By the way, my son pulled through his operation - we are back from hospital now :). Thank you for the well wishes. xxx
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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia Interrogated by Masked Police
by pale.emperor inhttp://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora.
i guess the gb's idea of writing to the russian government last year didn't help?
now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.. i sometimes wonder if the gb knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy..
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If this is true, I feel like such an idiot. I broke down at the Remain Loyal convention when the Bunker videos came on. I was so angry that they were screened because of their sensationalist and anxiety-inducing aspects.
Everyone there told me to calm down because the Governing Body is "warning us in advance so we'd be prepared when this kind of thing happens," etc. I wrote it off as rubbish and proceeded to wake up in the successive weeks after that convention.
Now I can imagine the Witnesses I used to be close to (including my now-estranged parents) talking about how the food indeed came at the proper time and that I was foolish to pull a "Kevin" and abandon the bunker/organization.
Urgh. I've got some mind f*ckery to sort out. I know this Russian gundown isn't part of a divine prophecy, but to the folks I said c'est la vie to as I bounced out of the hall for good, it sure looks that way.